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Greg Laurie: So, I was illegitimate, and I have to tell you something. When you find out you’re illegitimate, that you weren’t planned, that’s kind of disconcerting. Because you ask yourself the question, “Was I even meant to be? Was I a mistake? Is my life an accident, or does God have a plan for me despite my rather inauspicious beginnings?”

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John Fuller: Well, that’s an interesting perspective from our guest today on Focus on the Family, Greg Laurie. And we’ll hear what answers he found to those questions today. Uh, thanks for joining us. Your host is Focus president, Jim Daly, and I’m John Fuller.

Jim Daly: You know, John, I could relate to those questions Greg was asking because my birth wasn’t planned either. I was what they called the Oops Baby. Uh, my closest sibling is my sister, Dee, and she’s six years older than me, and they’re all about a year, a year and a half apart. So, I understand what it’s like to wonder, “Am I a mistake? Does God have a plan for me?” And as we heard yesterday, Greg had a tumultuous childhood because of his mother’s promiscuous lifestyle, and by the time he got into high school, he was doing drugs on a regular basis. But a chance meeting with a winsome Christian girl led Greg into a relationship with Jesus Christ, and he was able to quick drugs cold-turkey. And if you missed part one of Greg’s presentation yesterday, please get in touch with us. We can send you the entire message on CD or an audio download, or you can get the Focus on the Family App for your smartphone.

John: And there are a lot of ways to listen, and we’d be happy to tell you more when you call 800, the letter A, and the word FAMILY. 800-232-6459. Or, you can find those online at focusonthefamily.com/broadcast.

Jim: And as we pick up the story today, Greg’s figuring out what it means to be a Christian in his daily walk as a high school student in southern California.

John: And this was in the late ’60s, uh, 1960s in Orange County, California. Here now, Greg Laurie speaking at his church Harvest Christian Fellowship on today’s Focus on the Family.

Greg: So, now it’s back at school. It’s Monday. And I think, “All right, all right. I’m gonna go to a Jesus Freak meeting.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And, and their language mystified me. What were these people talking about? You know? It’s, “Praise the Lord,” this, and “Hallelujah,” that, and the Body of Christ, and the blood of Jesus, and what are they saying? This is so weird!

And I was having a really hard time figuring it out, deciphering the language of Christians. So, I thought, “I don’t, I don’t know if I’m gonna make this, really. I don’t know if this is gonna work for me.” And I remember I was walking, a- a- … You know, along the campus, and still sort of in that little in between spot, and some guy, who had recognized me from one of the meetings yells out to me across the lawn, “Brother Greg!” I’m like, “Aw, jee- … Don’t …”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “Brother Greg!” “Hey, how you doing?” “Bro!” “Yes?” “I, I got something for you.” He’s a really loud guy, you know?

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “And what’s that?” “I got you a Bible!” And he holds up … It’s not a nice-looking Bible like the one I’m holding in my hands. This is, like, a really big Bible, and it was this really distressed kinda leather, but it had popsicle sticks glued together in the shape of a cross.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: Oh, come on. “Bro! It’s the Word of God! Read it!” “(laughs) Right.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, I take the Bible. I had a jacket and I shoved this Bible as deep into the pocket as I could. I thought, “I’ve got to hide this thing somewhere.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “I’m not carrying this publicly.” So, I hadn’t gone to visit my friends for a long time. I went over to one of their homes that we’d usually go to every lunchtime. We’d get loaded at lunchtime and go back to class. And I went over there, and they hadn’t seen me for a while, and, and I go up to this guy’s house, I got this big ol’ Bible in my pocket. I thought, “I can’t walk in with this.”

So, there was a planter out front with some little, you know, greenery there. So, I took my Bible out, kinda looked, li- uh … Put it in the plants. Hid it. I was a really bold witness for Christ, you know?

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, I walked in this room, and my friends said, “Greg! How you been?” I said, “Ah, I’ve been fine.” “Where you been?” “Oh, nowhere.” “What’ve you been doing?” “Ah, nothing.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And the Holy Spirit is speaking in my heart, and he’s saying, “You tell them about me.” And I’m saying, “No.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “No.” (laughs) “So, Greg, you wanna get loaded?” “No.” “Come on, man. Let’s get a …” “No, I don’t wanna do that.” “Why not?” “I just don’t wanna get loaded.” They’re … “You seem really uptight. Well, Greg, you’re acting weird.” “I’m not acting weird!”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: They’re all just looking at me. All of a sudden, the front door opens up, my friend’s mom walks in and she’s holding my Bible.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: With the popsicle sticks.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “I found this in the bushes. Who does this belong to?”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: She has kids doing drugs in her house, and she’s searching the bushes for a Bible.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: Holding up the Bible with the popsicle sticks cross, every eye looked at the Bible, and every eye looked at me. Somehow, they knew there was a connection. I said, “That’s mine.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, I reach out and take it. They say, “What is that?” “Uh, it’s a Bible.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “A what?” “It’s a Bible.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “A what?” “It’s a Bible! A Bible!”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: Grab it. One of my friends said, “Oh, praise the Lord, Brother Greg.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “Are we gonna be a Christian now?” I said, “No. What we’re gonna do is punch you in the mouth. What do you think about that?”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I hadn’t read 1 Corinthians 13 yet, just so you …

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I just hid the Bible. I didn’t read it.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, they started to mock me and give me a hard time and harass me, and I thought, “Well, isn’t this interesting? These are my buddies, man. These are the guys I hang around with, and they’re giving me a hard time because I’m a Christian now?” And I thought, “I don’t want this life anymore. I’m done with this.” So, I started going to the Christian meetings, and I didn’t even know about church. This is how crazy it was. I basically thought (laughs) all the Christians were at my high school campus. I didn’t know there was a world-wide thing called Christianity. I’m serious!

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I’m dead … I knew nothing, nothing, when I tell you this, believe me. So, a guy comes up to me. I’ve never met him before a- at school the next day. His name is Mark. He says, “Hey, Greg. I saw that you prayed and accepted Christ.” I’m like, “Yeah.” He goes, “I want you to go to church to with me.” And I said, “Wh- wha- what? Where?” And he goes, “It’s a place called Calvary Chapel.”

So, he picks me up, and he takes me to this church, and then, what do you know? But someone in the front row of the church recognizes me from school and waves. “We got a seat for you, Greg!”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, I walk down to the front and I sit there. And you know, I mean, I believe in Jesus, all right? I, I do. But I’m just … I’m uncomfortable with all this still. I, I’m not feeling, uh, like I fit in yet. And this guy comes out to speak. He’s old.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: He’s bald.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: They called him Pastor Chuck Smith. I fold my arms. “Adults.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “What can they tell me?” He smiles, and it’s like his face lights up like a light bulb. “Wow. That guy really can smile.” You know? Like …

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And he starts to read from the Bible and teach, and it’s like, “It makes sense.” I’m going, “Hey, that, that, that makes sense. Well, that, that’s actually what I was just thinking. Hey, that’s, that’s what I needed to know.” And all of a sudden, I’m hearing the Word of God the way I’ve never heard it before.

So, I’m back there the next night. I’m back there the next night. I’m back there the ne- … I’m going every night of the week. I can’t get enough. I’m just absorbing all of this information, and my life is changing. Then, I remember I went to a Christian bookstore, and I found a book by Billy Graham called The Jesus Generation, and I started reading it. “I like this Billy Graham guy. I remember him from my grandparent’s house.” This is great, what he was saying. And my heart’s starting to kinda burn. You see, I’m thinking, “You know, I wa- I wanna help other people like me come to Jesus.” Well, I’m a cartoonist. You see? This is what I do.

And uh, how do I use the ability of drawing cartoons for God? So, I decide to illustrate one of the sermons I heard Pastor Chuck give the week before on the woman at the well, and he spoke about living water, so I drew a cartoon character with a big ol’ hole in his heart, and talked about how we all have a hole in our heart, but if we believe in Jesus, He’ll give us living water. And I drew this, and I thought, “I’m just gonna go show this to Chuck Smith.”

I found out where he lived, went over to his house, knocked on the door. “Hi, Chuck. I’m Greg Laurie, and I just drew this cartoon strip, and thought you might like to see it.” He’s like, “Oh?”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “Oh, my.” And Chuck says he liked it, and said, “Why don’t we print this up in a little booklet form?” And, and so I redrew it, and it became a little booklet that became as the Living Water Tract, and we handed them out in the streets. And when it was all said and done, there were like three million of those crazy little things that went out.

And, and so, I began to wonder, you know, maybe God is calling me, uh, uh, to be a Christian cartoonist, and, and maybe He’ll even use me to speak one day. I always had this fear of public speaking, but, but I wanted to speak. I wanted to reach others for Jesus. I was sort of torn. It was kind of this in-between, in this in-between spot. And um …

But I do remember when I led my first person to the Lord. It blew my mind. I was out on the beach at Huntington, and I was looking for someone to talk to about God because Chuck told us we should share our faith. And there was this lady just sitting there, and I thought, “I’ll talk to her. She, you know, she won’t get mad. She’s an older lady.” And, and I remember I very nervously just read to her the contents of a little booklet I had, The Four Spiritual Laws, from Campus Crusade for Christ.

And, and as I read it to her, I’m thinking to myself, “This isn’t gonna work. This lady isn’t gonna believe in Jesus. There’s just no way that God could use someone like me, but as you get to the end of the booklet, there’s a question that’s asked and the question is, “Is there any good reason why you should not accept Jesus Christ right now?” So I ask her that, and she says, “No.” Which meant she wanted to accept Jesus.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And I looked at her and I said, “Are you saying that you want to accept Jesus?” And she said, “Yes.” And I went, “Oh, no.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “What have I gotten myself into?” So, in the most reverent tone I could muster, I said, “Let’s bow our head for a word of prayer.” You didn’t wanna say, “heads,” because there’s only one person, you see?

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: But … Chuck would say, “Bow our heads,” but there’s one, so I … Head. You know, “Bow your head.” No … So, she prays, and I’m frantically searching this booklet for a prayer to pray. I find it. I lead her in this prayer, and as I’m leading her in the prayer, I’m thinking, “There’s no way this is gonna work.” Well, you know what? After we were done praying, she said, “Something just happened to me.” And I thought, “Yeah. Something just happened to me too.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I got a taste of what it was to be used by God.

John: You’re listening to Greg Laurie on Focus on the Family today, and uh, he’s written about a lot of his experiences and stories and faith journey in the book, Jesus Revolution. And we’ve got that as well as a free audio download of his entire presentation. Those are available when you donate today, so uh, please, uh, stop by focusonthefamily.com/broadcast or call 1-800, the letter A, and the word, FAMILY. 800-232-6459. Let’s return to more from Greg Laurie as he jumps ahead about 10 years.

Greg: Now, we have a son, Christopher. And, and I’m thinking, “I would love Christopher to meet Oscar. I wonder if he’s even still alive.” So, we had a girl in our, our church that worked for the Bar Association, and I said, “Hey, could you see if you could find a guy named Oscar Laurie. He would be somewhere on the East Coast.” Oh, she found him immediately. And so, I got his phone number and I called his office, and the reason I called was ’cause I was gonna be in New York, speaking at Central Park. And I thought I might just pay him a visit, and maybe tell him a little bit about my new life in Christ.

So, I, I called his office, and his secretary answered. “Oscar Laurie’s office.” I said, “Hello. Is, uh, Mr. Laurie in?” She said, “No.” And I said, “Well, uh, would you tell him I called?” She said, “All right. What’s your name?” I said, “Greg Laurie.” She said, “How do you spell that?”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I said, “L-A-U-R-I-E. Just like he spells his last name. This is his son.” There’s, like, a moment of silence. “Okay. I’ll get right back to you.” And, and my dad calls me. He was so excited to hear from me. He says, “Greg, I wanna see you again.” And I said, “Well, Dad, we’ll just have lunch, maybe.” “No, no. You have to come to our house and visit us.” And so, I get off the train. It’s like I went back in time. There’s my dad again. He was older, but he looked pretty much the same. In no time at all, I was calling him, “Dad.”

We went back over our life, and I found out that he heard about the life I was living being tossed around, living here, living there, the crazy lifestyle I was in, and uh … with my mom. And he had tried to get custody of me, but my mom had fought him tooth and nail. And, uh …

And another thing had happened to Oscar. He had had a severe heart attack and had just recently blacked out at the wheel of his car and had almost died. And uh, so he was really glad, he said, to see me, and … So, that night, we had dinner, and he married a very nice lady named Barbara who was a great cook, and she made us a wonderful Italian meal. And afterwards, she said, “Greg, tell me your story of how you came to believe in Jesus.” And so, I’m telling Barbara how I came to faith in Christ. My dad’s sitting at the other end of the table, and I just remember, he had his hand kind of up to his face, sort of like both hands like this, listening.

I felt like I was in a court room and he was the judge.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And it wasn’t going well. He wasn’t smiling. He wasn’t reacting favorably. He was an academic, and, and here I am, this young preacher, telling him these things that I believe. And so, he said to me that night, “Greg, I, I need to take my mor- walk every morning because of my heart condition. Will you walk with me?” I said, “Yeah. Dad, I will.” So, the next morning, he knocks on the door of the room I’m staying in, and I, I, I stumble out. It, it’s 6:00 New Jersey time, 3:00 California time, so I’m really tired.

We’re walking along, and the cold, New Jersey air is there. And, and he turns to me and says, “Greg, I listened very carefully to what you said last night.” I said, “Yeah?” He says, “I want to accept Jesus Christ right now.”

Audience: (clapping)

Greg: Well, that’ll wake you up faster than a double cappuccino, you know? And um … So, I said, “Now, now, wait a second, Dad, maybe you don’t understand what I was saying. Now, lemme go over it again.” So, I go over the whole thing again of what it means to be a Christian, what it means to believe in Jesus. He says, “Yes. I wanna do that right now.” And I said, “Well …” And we’re walking at this point. We’re in a parking lot.

And I said, “Well, wh- what we need to do is pray.” He said, “All right.” And he drops to his knees. Well, I wasn’t gonna get on my knees.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: But here’s my dad on his knees in the park- … So, I get down on my knees, and, and I, I put my arm around his shoulder, and I lead him in a prayer to accept Christ, and immediately after the prayer, he says, “Jesus has just come into my life, Greg. I know it! I’m sure of it!” It was one of the most dramatic conversions I’ve ever seen. And then, he said, “Let’s pray that God would heal my heart now, I believe God will heal my heart.” “Now, Dad, calm down. Wait a second.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “We don’t, we don’t know if God …” “No! I believe He’ll heal my heart.” And, “Okay.” So, we prayed for his heart. He says, “I think I’m healed, Greg! Let’s go tell my doctor!” I’m like, “Dad, I don’t …”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, we walk over to his doctor’s office. He’s a nice, Jewish gentleman.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And in comes Oscar, with his son, the preacher from Southern California.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: Who he just prayed with, who led him to Jesus, and by the way, his heart is healed.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: Doctor says, “Now, Oscar, we need to run some tests on you. We don’t know if you’re better.” Well, sure enough, God had touched his heart. He lived 15 more years. (laughs) One down, there’s a bunch more to go.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: See, I could have a full-time ministry sharing the Gospel with my mom’s old husbands.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: So, I think, “I’m on a roll. I’m going after all of them now.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: And I’d like to tell you that we had success stories with everyone, but we didn’t. But then there was my mom. (laughs) Is my mom ever gonna come to Christ? Here I am, preaching in Crusades, and we’re seeing all these people come to faith and my own mother, at least that I can see, is not a Christian. And so, I went and told her the story of Oscar. I thought that’d really touch her heart.

“Mom? Remember Oscar? He- here’s what happened.” Told her the whole story. She said, “That’s nice.”

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I said, “Well, what do you think about it?” She said, “I don’t wanna talk about it.” That was my mom’s standard reply to everything. “I don’t wanna talk about it. I don’t wanna talk about it.” And as the years passed, all that rough living began to take its toll. The drinking, the partying. Her kidneys were failing. She had to get dialysis three times a week. My mom was miserable. She hated it.

She was always a strong, proud woman that liked to fend for herself. She hadn’t to be dependent on other people, and her heart began to soften just ever so slightly every time we saw her. So, I went over to her house, she was alone, and I said, “We need to talk about your relationship with God.” She said, “I don’t wanna talk about it.” I said, “You’re gonna talk about it.”

See, my mom ran from the Lord to the world, and I ran from the world to the Lord.

Audience: (clapping)

Greg: And her view of Christianity was rules and regulations, and granted, according to my aunt, they were raised in a very strict Christian church that maybe had a few too many rules, and my mom wanted to have fun, she wanted to party, she wanted to enjoy life, and that didn’t appeal to her, you see?

So, she ran from that. And what happens? Her own son becomes not only a Christian, but a stinking preacher.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: There was no escape for her. So, I said, “Mother, do you consider yourself a Christian?” And much to my shock, she said, “Yes, I do.” I said, “What? You do?” She said, “Yes, I do.” I said, “Well …” I was dumbfounded to hear this ’cause I always thought of her as just a non-believer. Never thought of her as someone who maybe believed and had been running from God.

And I said, “Well, well if you’re a Christian, why don’t you go to church?” And she said … She kinda looked at me, like, “Yeah. That’s true.” “And, and read your Bible.” And, and, and she was, you know, listening to me. And so, that Sunday, she showed up here at church.

We were so excited about this change we were seeing in her life. I, I got her a TV with a little built-in DVD player, and I got her a bunch of Billy Graham DVDs and some Chuck Smith DVDs and threw in a couple of her son too, you know? And, and I was just looking forward to having some wonderful years with my mom as a follower of Jesus.

But then, about a month later, she died unexpectedly. I believe I’ll see her again in heaven. And I believe she’s found now what she was always looking for for her entire life in the presence of God, whether as fullness of joy, known as right-hand pleasures forevermore.

You see, my life should have been a complete disaster. The deck was stacked against me in every way. Now, I don’t know what the pattern of sin is in your family. The Bible says that the sins of the parent can be visited on the children. And I don’t believe that is speaking of some weird generational curse, but rather, it’s simply saying that we often repeat the behavior of our parents.

I could’ve ended up in a lot of places, but God intervened in my life and changed it. And God can break in and change your story too, because the Bible says, “If any man be in Christ, he is an altogether different kind of person. The old things have passed away. Behold, everything becomes fresh and new.”

My mom left home and eloped and married a man at the age of 17. I became a Christian at the age of 17. In the Bible, there’s a story of a young boy who was 17 when my brother’s sold him into slavery. His name was Joseph. Betrayed by his own flesh and blood. And then, later, accused falsely of rape. Everything came against Joseph. He had done nothing to deserve it. But through God’s providence, Joseph became the second most powerful man in the world. And one day, his brothers, who had done this horrific thing to him appeared before him and he, with one word, could’ve had them all put to death.

But instead, he saw his brothers, and his heart broke, and he began to weep, and he made this statement: “As far as I’m concerned, what you meant for evil, God has turned into good and brought me to where I am today so I can save the lives of many people.” God can take bad things and turn them into good things.

I mentioned my grandmother, Mama Stella. She cooked everything from scratch. I mean, when we had chicken, it was fresh. When we had vegetables, they were from my grandfather’s garden. And she made these wonderful biscuits, and when I get to heaven, first thing, I … “Mama Stella …” Well, not first thing. I … After I’ve worshiped Jesus for 3,000 years, okay?

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: “Mama Stella, I need some biscuits!” But I’d watch her make them. The ingredients weren’t appealing in and of themselves. Vegetable oil, self-rising flour, and of course, buttermilk. (laughs) And I don’t know about you, but I think buttermilk was sick tasting. And I don’t mean that in the youthful way, like, sick as in good.

Audience: (laughter)

Greg: I mean sick as in sick. Not good. In the same way, God takes the events of our lives, the good things, the so-called bad things, and puts them in the oven of adversity. And when it’s all done, we say, “It’s good.” And here’s what the Bible says in Psalm 139:16, “You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.” And then, Psalm 22, “I was thrust upon you at my birth. You’ve been my God from the moment I was born.”

See, I never had an earthly father, but one day, I discovered I had a Father in Heaven. And David said, “Though my father and mother forsake me, the Lord will take me up.” My father, Oscar, once showed me our family crest for the Laurie family, the family I was adopted into. It’s a image of a stump that’s been cut off and has a fresh growth coming out of it with the word, “Repullulat,” which means, “it buds fresh.” And I remember when he showed that to me, and I thought, “That’s my life.” It was cut off, but God brought new growth out of it. And God can do that for you as well.

Because, you see, we’re all in a search. We’re just like that prodigal son. We’re running from God. But I want you to know the same Jesus that changed my life can change your life right now. Forget the past. Don’t live in the past. Don’t be crippled by the past. God had a plan for me, even though I was illegitimate because there are no illegitimate children in the eyes of God. He loves every single one of us.

John: What a great summation of the life of Pastor Greg Laurie as recorded at his church, Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside, California, on today’s Focus on the Family.

Jim: And John, the Lord has used this man in such mighty ways. Uh, I’m sure many of our listeners are familiar with Pastor Greg’s Harvest Crusades, which began back in the 1990s and swept across North America. He even did a couple here, I think, in Colorado Springs. I- if you count the people who attended in-person plus those who viewed the events via the webcast, Pastor Greg was able to reach more than 9.4 million people. (laughs) Isn’t that amazing?

John: Mm.

Jim: And that’s what God can do with a life, any life, no matter how that person came to be conceived. No matter what their upbringing, a life that’s submitted to the lordship of Jesus Christ is a life that can be used by God.

John: Mm, and Jim, uh, you mentioned earlier about how you could relate to Greg’s story, uh … In many respects, you’re kind of a same kind of testimony.

Jim: (laughs) Maybe that’s true, but uh, it’s been such an awesome experience to be used by God through the work we do here at Focus on the Family, and to see our reach extend all around the world through this broadcast and other resources that we offer. So rewarding. Uh, we have an amazing staff here, and I’m so grateful to be part of Focus on the Family’s efforts to lead people to Christ, strengthen or save their marriages, and improve their parenting skills. What a great opportunity! And often, I have donors come up to me and say, “We do ministry through Focus on the Family. You’ve got the vehicle, the broadcast, the resources, the staff, and we’re happy to provide the fuel to keep the vehicle going.” So, let me encourage you to think of Focus on the Family as your ministry opportunity as well.

Here’s one example of our impact from Crystal in California. She said, “I experienced a lot of hardship growing up, and it seemed like I was living a replay of my childhood, and I didn’t know how to stop it. Focus on the Family rescued me from those bad patterns, and with God’s grace, gave me the tools I needed in my marriage and also in my parenting. Thank you.” And I would say that’s the Lord. We’re just the, the tools being used there.

John: Yeah. It’s wonderful, uh, when people like Crystal are able to find help through this ministry. I’m so glad that she could do that.

Jim: Well, and there’s a, a lot of people John, uh, just like Crystal who need our help together. So, please, partner on Focus on the Family by making a donation. And when you make a donation of any amount, we’ll send you Pastor Greg’s behind-the-scenes look at the Jesus Movement in California. It’s called Jesus Revolution: How God Transformed An Unlikely Generation, and How He Can Do It Again Today. And when you get the book from us, we’ll include a free audio download of this entire presentation with quite a bit of extra content. Donate and help us continue serving families who need the Lord.

John: Just give us a call. Our number is 800, the letter A, and the word, FAMILY. Uh, 800-232-6459. Or, you can donate online and request your book and exclusive audio download at focusonthefamily.com/broadcast. And it may be that you’ve seen some of the ads for the Jesus Revolution. It’s a major motion picture, out on a limited time run in theaters. Be sure to look for the listings in your area. On behalf of Jim Daly and the entire team, thanks for joining us today for Focus on the Family. I’m John Fuller, inviting you back as we, once again, help you and your family thrive in Christ.